props to get places

since the rule zombies can break ct props and ct can break zombie props should proping to places where you cant get without props be illegal.

example : if cts get to places you have to prop to get and zombies try to prop up there but get props broken trying
its an unfair  advantage meaning cts will win everytime,

just wondering

i hear complaints about this all the time

 

The way I see it is if the map has a way or some secret way to get up there then it should be allowed. But if it's a spot which is literally impossible because you have to place props in front of the enemy to just get up there then it's kinda just ruins the point of even trying since they will just shoot your props. A example is zm_firewall_treehouse, with what I've seen the only way to get up on the sign is to climb props before someone gets infected. It's spots like those that should be illegal and they can easily be stopped with some type of death zones or something. That's just my opinion though

 

death zones sound good , even up that way

 

especially maps like zm_lil_panic towers_a1

 

sounds like the fun is being taken out of zombie mod to me . How much more do you guys want Woody and Gotcha to remove from it . Keep it up and we are gonna start losing players .

 

The whole prop thing is a great addition to the server but that doesn't mean there aren't ways to abuse them. That's what we are trying to point out. People are getting into spots that should have never been accessible if it weren't for the props. By allowing players to get on these spots it will actually take away more fun then it would if we let them.

And there's nothing fun about being on a spot where you know they will never get you. It's much more funner to build a cade because you know there's that chance of being infected.

 

Sorry to say , but it's the way Zm has been since I started playing , and I am sure way before  . As I said the more and more they take away the more people bitch . They bitched and moaned when he took the big vendy , the dryer , made props more expensive , took away the file cabs , and now you guys are still asking for more . Sounds like there are only a few that want this gone . There are other Zm server that have these types of things you guys are asking for . VG and even before we were VG always had props and people getting into high spots . It's a game things are never gonna be totally fair . Oh not to mention then all you would have is a bunch of noob tube campers . I can always find a way to get to people in the high spots , without using my admin too

 

The way ZM has always been? I think this is the first time I've played in a ZM server that has this prop stuff. Either way were not asking to remove props or change the prices which seems like that's how your taking this situation. In fact this thread has nothing to do with changing the whole prop thing my main point I'm trying to get out is that these things are able to get abused. The props have been changed too much and that's why I suggested death zones since that won't effect the whole prop stuff. I'd rather have people camp crouch areas and have some chance of getting them then to have to wait a whole round just because someone is camping a unattainable spot. I'd also like to add just because people are bitching doesn't mean you aren't doing the right thing. If someone decides to stop playing the ZM server just because they aren't allowed to go on spots that are impossible for zombies to get to then they are just being ignorant.

 

The point is alot of these people that play in our server have been here playing way longer then you , and alot of them don't like change . So that being said we would prob lose them . I just don't want our ZM server only having 3-4 players at a time like another certain CLANS ZM SERVER everyday . Maybe you arew a better player then I am , but I have a better chance at getting the guys up high then in a crouch spot .

 

lets keep props but lets limit the spots like on 2 towers where you spawn 4 boxes on a ledge jump up and shoot all boxes zombie make to try and get up there or

on the ship 1 prop boxes to get up on pole  zombie spawn boxes they get shot down right away which in turn is a automatic ct win , there is no fun in making props to get up there to have them all shot out .

the very first zombie mod server i have ever played on was like this but had no props it was about cading and finding good spots

keep the props just use them infairness use props to where no one cant get you is really boring when people do this i jsut go afk there is no real point in trying, server is fun till that happens then i wait for the next round . making a spot like that a dead zone will result in more cading and more teamwork. i dont think we will lose people for dead zones , i just think it will even the playing field for both the new and old players